Releasing all Pledges
Two weeks after formal rush a sorority on my daughter's campus released all of their PNMs. (Let's call them Alpha Alpha, I am not naming the sorority or the campus because I don't think there has been a formal announcement that the chapter is closing.) Alpha Alpha's membership is lower than the other sororities, and it took approximately 25 new members, the other sororities each took about 45. I find it hard to believe that all of a sudden two weeks after formal rush concluded, after snap bids had been given out and when COB was wrapping up, Alpha Alpha realized membership at this chapter is low and the chapter would close. My daughter has a friend who is one of the released new members and the friend showed my daughter the email Alpha Alpha sent the PNMs. I'm writing this because I am so sad for my daughter's friend and angry with Alpha Alpha. The released PNMs saw the rush process through, accepted bids from Alpha Alpha (yes, the friend had been dropped by every other sorority before preference) and are now left out of the sorority experience. If Alpha Alpha had dropped out of formal recruitment their PNMs would have received bids from other sororities because these women were seeing the rush process to conclusion, correct? I also told my daughter her sorority and others could extend bids to the Alpha Alpha PNMs (allegedly Panhel suspended total) but they don't want to. My opinion is Alpha Alpha acted irresponsibly and callously, and the remaining sororities on campus aren't doing anything to assist these women. I'm giving you an example where seeing the process through and trusting the process did not serve this group of women at all. According to my daughter, about half the released PNMs are sophomore transfer students and will not rush again next year as juniors.
|
The women who had options left and saw the process through would have gotten other bids. The women who had no options left, like the friend, wouldn't have gotten bids.
Alpha Alpha's national office may have swooped in on the chapter and announced that they were closed, once they saw the recruitment results. The local chapter may not have known that was the plan during recruitment. It's a good thing that they're releasing them now and not after initiation. Had they done that (and some groups have), the released NMs could not have ever joined another NPC sorority. Also, and I speak from experience--there may be some very good reasons that existing sororities don't want to pick up some of the girls, especially if the floundering group was their only option. It could be that they were QRs, grade risks, drama queens--who knows besides the groups that cut them? |
Thank you for succinctly venting.
IMO Sorority Recruitment Results mean very little to a vast majority of wonderful people, worldwide, who will never care who "belongs" and who "doesn't belong". |
Hating to nitpick, Suzy, but Alpha Alpha did not release PNMs (POTENTIAL New Members), they released their New Members. In archaic times, New Members were called Pledges, and it would have been said that Alpha Alpha released them of their pledge to AA, allowing them to be able to accept a bid to another sorority.
|
If it hasn't been made clear, those woman that pledged AA likely had pref invitation ONLY to AA. If AA had not been actively recruiting, then those women would very likely have been dropped from recruitment PRIOR to Pref. They would not have received bids. Maybe not all of them, but a high percentage.
AA may have been told by their National that they were required to pledge XX number of women this recruitment to retain their charter. If they didn't make that number, closure was going to be the result. This was their last chance. Sometimes it is better to close and hope to come back in a few years, than continue to struggle. I am sure this decision was not made by the local chapter, but their national council. Having said that, there are a very, very few campuses that require that every woman who participates in recruitment receives a bid. The result would have been different on those "unicorn" campuses. |
Quote:
It's not completely unheard of to have two new member classes in one semester, but logistically, it can be a lot of work and requires planning, so chapters tend to avoid it if they can. Plus, it's typically only done by chapters that are struggling numbers-wise. It's not a matter of these chapters being "mean girls" who don't want to include anyone else, but perhaps they don't know a lot of these young women well enough (e.g. they were dropped from Delta Delta in round 1 of formal recruitment), and for those they might want to give a bid to, they just don't have it worked out logistically to make it happen for what probably amounts to only a few additional new members on top of the 45 they already have. |
Quote:
Quote:
What an awful position to be and my heart goes out to those young ladies. :( |
Can we change the title of this thread to all pledges/new members released? I was really confused.
I also would be really careful in assuming the released girls were there because it was “all they could get.” That kind of thinking is a big contributor to why chapters end up closing in the first place. Plus the 25 women may be thinking of themselves as a package deal - take all of us or none. |
Quote:
Quote:
People always talk about how sorority membership is for a lifetime, so here are 25 members that may have made great alumnae someday. I was in a chapter that closed shortly after I initiated (although I had a full school year- pledged in the fall of sophomore year, initiated at the beginning of spring and we closed at the end of that year), and for awhile, when I lived in a larger city with an active alumnae chapter, I was very involved with Chi Omega. I am still in touch with sisters from my college chapter today, which never re-opened. |
Some reasons why they might not want that:
There are lots of possibilities, but getting more specific would probably cause OP to out the campus and I respect her wishes not to do that. I will say the “if this rush is a banger you can stay open” concept is a recipe for disaster at schools with pre-freshman, fall formal rush. It’s prolonging the inevitable. It just places huge mental and emotional pressure on the chapter and color me cuckoo if I don’t think that is a good mindset to have while trying to convince women that sorority life in your group is awesome. |
Quote:
One callous thing any remaining sorority on campus could do in this situation is immediately pledge released women, whom they likely do not know very well, then honestly drop them for legitimate reasons before initiation. Time is a healer, and allows for further information exploration by any party with a continuing interest in sorority membership. |
A few random thoughts - chapter closings after an inadequate recruitment is far more common than you might think. I can think of 3 times that I know about withouot having to tax my brain. With the chapter closing, PH should have reset total giving all chapters on campus room to pledge any of these women they may have had interest in before. And it isn't necessarily the case that the 25 were "left overs." There may have been the one or two who wanted something different from what they were expected to do. May have wanted a place where early leadership positions were possible.
|
I actually know this campus/sorority. It was very unfortunate, especially because sadly another house shut down just a few years prior. The rankings site likely was a big factor in the recruiting struggles these chapters faced. While you have gotten a lot of feedback already, I just wanted to respond to this:
>>I also told my daughter her sorority and others could extend bids to the Alpha Alpha PNMs (allegedly Panhel suspended total) but they don't want to. This is a campus that does not have enormous sorority mansions, but requires sophomores to live on campus and Greek housing fulfills this requirement. For those houses at house total that made or exceeded quota, they CANNOT take any additional members because there is no room to house them and they can't support a bigger MC in a number of ways. At least 3 houses were ineligible for COB because of numbers, so it was not even an option. My understanding is that another house who was doing COB and has also been struggling with numbers did in fact take many of these girls during COB. Not sure of the details or if it was all of them though. I hope that your daughter's friend was able to explore that opportunity or any other available COB opportunities. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
I get the impression that many of the girls only had Alpha Alpha left anyway, which means they would have been bidless had AA not participated.
I don't know how much the AA chapter knew about their situation. Nationals could have come in there with all kinds of physical and other help and maybe AA thought, "We can do this!" But it didn't happen and Nationals looked at the bottom line and said it wasn't going to work. One good thing was that they released all the girls before initiation. It would have been horrible if they had kept them until then, knowing that they then wouldn't have had other options. In no way should the other groups been forced to pledge the newly released girls, though, especially if they had been cut by the other groups already. |
Quote:
As far as seeing the process through and trusting the process, life turns and changes on a dime. There really are no guarantees in life. Going with the flow and bending/changing when necessary are good life options. Reacting to and recovering from any type of sorority release requires more than complaining. Any released woman in your stated situation does have the option to re-rush, despite their apparent statements to your daughter that they will not do so. There is also no hard-and-fast, NPC-wide mandatory rule that women cut by a chapter will always be cut; that decision belongs to each individual NPC group and involves Membership Selection which we on GC don't discuss. |
I know what this is about. I was advised it was going to go national, to all 26 due to the new potential members we allowed in. Private message me.
|
Quote:
|
I was advised that the potential new members were going to be released as they were not a good fit for the organization at large and thus not the right fit for PNC, period. I cannot say all I was advised due to privacy concerns, but know it’s been a long time coming.
|
Mikki, this isn't making any sense. We know where it happened.
|
PNC? What is PNC?
How would a member of Beta Sigma Phi know NPC stuff? |
Quote:
|
Quote:
Quote:
Mikki, we're just trying to understand your message. Reading your post carefully, it sounds like you're saying that the Phi Sigma Sigma chapter at Cornell was directed (by PSS HQ?) to release all of their new members due to them feeling that the Cornell new member class didn't fit in right with PSS as a whole. Or, you are possibly saying that another NPC sorority on the campus did not want to offer bids to the PSS released new members because they didn't fit into their sorority? Please help me understand. You did say in another post "I was advised it was going to go national, to all 26 due to the new potential members we allowed in". Can you expand on what you meant? National NPC? What new members did you let in? (Who is the "we"? you mention?") I can tell you have a lot to share, and it's probably important and worth discussing, but I'm having a hard time because the posts are vague. |
Pardon my lane jump- Would the released pnms of this chapter be eligible for bids this semester or do they still need to wait until the next semester?
I remember a chapter getting closed at another school due to RMF. The pnms as a group (or mostly) joined another sorority the spring semester. I've personally seen this happen in the IFC world on two occasions, but do not know how often it occurs in the NPC world. |
They could pledge right off if the other groups have space and want them. I have never seen a mass pickup by another sorority, though.
|
I think it might have occurred at Michigan a couple of years ago.
|
If you don't mind me asking, what happened there?
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
|
Way back when I was at IU, three sorority chapters closed after spring semester 1994. New members were given the option to be released or to be initiated and take alumna status after the semester. One sorority’s new members all chose to initiate, another chapter only had one new member initiate, and I’m not sure about the third. (I’m not giving away any top-secret information or gossip. There was a feature story about the chapters closing in the 1994 Arbutus yearbook.)
|
Quote:
|
I think there was some scuttlebutt that the released new members mostly went to one sorority.
|
Quote:
|
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:02 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.