Changed the Name
How do you feel about people who change the name of the fraternity? I ran across a bothers' website and it said Alpha Phi Omega National Service Fraternity and Sorority!!! :mad: I was floored. They obviously changed the name at the National Convention yesterday and I must have missed the memo * I really hope everyone caught the sarcasm...* But seriously, how do you feel about this, because I know I don't like it...
And this is not the first time I have seen the name of the fraternity changed to say something else. Going back to the guys' page,he said that Frank Reed Horton was involved with scouting when he was a boy. Please correct me if I am wrong, and I could very well be, but I thought that Frank Reed Horton was introduced to scouting in Nov. 1923 at the American Legion Armistice Ball. This is where he met Herbert Horton. At this time Frank was 27, Herbert 37. It was Herbert Horton and Everett Probst that taught him about scouting. He became a scoutmaster and and a scouter. Now if this is true, then I would not consider 27 to be a boy. I said all of that to say this...is it appropiate to put this type of information out. I realize that our fraternity is not meant to be a "secret society"; however, when you put things out that are not correct, people misconstrue who we are. As I already stated, I could be wrong in my research, so could I get some feedback on this? |
Alpha Phi Omega National Service Fraternity and Sorority????
No. No. NO. That is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Ive seen it refered to that before. But in no way do I agree with it. As always, yall know I see ALpha Phi Omega as a fraternity. Nothing more, nothing less. Hmmph.
Strawter :cool: |
Fraternity & Sorority is correct if the website is for our brothers and sisters in the Philippines.
Give us the URL... Randy |
I'll have to look and see if i can find it. i was just browsing when i found it. i think he was from the phillipines, but i think he said his chapter was in the us??? i dont know. i emailed him so if he replies then i will get the url.
my other concern wasn't address about Frank Reed Horton scouting as a boy, was that true? |
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If anyone would read either the Pledge Manual &/or "In the Begining" where FRH gives the history of his establishing APO, they will learn what you stated: that he first got involved in scouting when he met Herbert G Horton. He became a scouting commissioner and involved as a camp director, and later became a scoutmaster. After graduation, he was a professional scouter for many years before moving on to other careers. (never heard a date associated with his meeting of Herbert. your source for this?) The Pledge Manual is on-line at the National website, so there is little excuse for such misinformation. Other misinformation about APO I've heard (and had to correct): All the Founders were Eagle Scouts. (no. as we've pointed out, some were not even scouts.) Being an Eagle Scout was a requirements to join APO. (no. until 1967, ANY past involvement in scouting was all that was needed). |
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In reading thru my collection of T&T, several times the National org had to emphasis that NO restrictions be placed on the scouting level of potential members. Several chapters wanted to restrict membership to just Eagle Scouts or the like and the BOD didn't want that. I guess some chapters got away with it. |
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Great Article. |
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There is also a group called simply Eagle Scout Fraternity at SUNY-Maritime. YiLFS Randy |
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Bill Clinton had *zero* experience at a Boy Scout. He was however a Cub Scout. Randy |
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Uncertain if the National Board put down any thing about how it should be intepreted, beyond some things I've seen in old T&T that chapters shouldn't restrict membership to just Eagle Scouts. Since Cub Scouts are part of the scouting movement, its reasonable to expect a chapter to accept a former cub scout. |
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