YESSS! I think we're getting nationals!!! - Page 2

AOIIBrandi · #16 08-28-2002, 09:01 AM

Carnation,

I hope everything works out. I have no experience with blatant hazing so I cannot even imagine what watching that has to be like

I hope AOII looks into colonizing there. As you know we have many chapters in GA, and a very strong Atlanta alumnae chapter

MoxieGrrl · #17 08-28-2002, 09:49 AM

Have you spoke to anyone at NPC yet? What were their suggestions/responses etc.... How do the locals seem to be taking the news? Would they rather disband that have to go "cold turkey" on the hazing?

ROWDYsister · #18 08-28-2002, 11:31 AM

How exciting! I hope Pi Phi gets in on this!

carnation · #19 08-28-2002, 01:34 PM

I've contacted NPC, no response yet. Since we have no nationals, I don't know whether they're required to come in and put on a presentation or the existing groups can just go after whomever they want.

There are varying responses from girls and guys in the locals, from "It's about time" to "They can't stop us from hazing" (but the state can, idiot) to "They'll destroy our tradition" (what tradition--besides hazing?) One girl whom I've known for years has heard what all my oldest does in her sorority and is dying for her group to go national because there's just no comparison between the weak "programs" offered by her group here and the fabulous things that our daughter's AOII chapter does.

dzrose93 · #20 08-28-2002, 03:17 PM

What wonderful news, carnation! Delta Zeta could use another colony... hmmmm

Denise_DPhiE · #21 08-28-2002, 03:38 PM

Carnation:

Not sure who you may have contacted at NPC but the Extension Director is Jean Mrasek and her email is jmrasek@juno.com

I believe it is wise to have NPC send the expansion lead out to all the 26 NPC groups. The obvious ones you might think would come to your campus might not be expanding at this time, might not want to touch a hazing campus with a ten foot pole or may just not be interested in that student population etc. You will have far more to consider if all 26 know about it and you can sift through their information and purge it down to one national per local. You may want to contact John Caroll University in Ohio. They just took something like 5-7 local womens groups and forced them to go national and it seems they are all having a great experience.

Any questions, please IM me.

Denise_DPhiE
Director of Expansion
Delta Phi Epsilon
(and yes, we have plenty of alumnae in Georgia although we are not a "southern" sorority!!)

violets · #22 08-28-2002, 03:56 PM

I think Valparaiso University, Indiana is also a success story in regards to changing long-standing locals into NPC orgs.
I also think there are some GC posters who are Valparaiso students, they might be able to provide some interesting insights.
www.valpo.edu

PenguinTrax · #23 08-28-2002, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by violets
I think Valparaiso University, Indiana is also a success story in regards to changing long-standing locals into NPC orgs.
I also think there are some GC posters who are Valparaiso students, they might be able to provide some interesting insights.
www.valpo.edu

Actually, the success was so-so, at least one of the national groups folded almost immediately after the change-over and another one shortly after that, if I understand the situation correctly. It could be the same group - they may have tried a recolonization after the initial changeover problems, and then closed for good after that.

violets · #24 08-28-2002, 04:30 PM

Oh, that's a shame. Sorry if I gave incorrect information!
I just met a very happy VU alum recently which made me think of it.
It would, however, be interesting to understand what went wrong so similar problems could be avoided on other campuses.
Thanks for setting me straight PnguinTrax.
violets

Tom Earp · #25 08-28-2002, 04:33 PM

Carnation, sent our expansion team leader an e-m so will see what comes from that!

I know I pissed on his wheaties one time before, but I tried being nicey this time!

Goodest of luck and thanks for sending PM on this again!

your Luvin KS Gorilla Bud!

33girl · #26 08-28-2002, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by PnguinTrax

Actually, the success was so-so, at least one of the national groups folded almost immediately after the change-over and another one shortly after that, if I understand the situation correctly. It could be the same group - they may have tried a recolonization after the initial changeover problems, and then closed for good after that.

Barbara - I remember us discussing this at the time - didn't you say the one who folded had bad internal problems to begin with? It looks like the other 7 are still there.

oldhasbeen · #27 08-28-2002, 05:01 PM

Sorry to use this forum, but I need some help with my login. I had to create another one just to post this. Carnation, would you mind contacting me privately? Aopinthesky@aol.com. Thanks.

PenguinTrax · #28 08-28-2002, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl

Barbara - I remember us discussing this at the time - didn't you say the one who folded had bad internal problems to begin with? It looks like the other 7 are still there.

I really don't recall, I just remember that one of the groups folded almost immediately.

I double-checked and it was AST, their Delta Xi colony, it looks like they were never installed as a full chapter and closed in 2000. I believe that the other chapters on campus began the changeover in 1998 or thereabouts, but not all chapters installed at the same time due to differing requirements amongst the various NPC groups.

From the ADPi (valpo) web site:

During 1997, the sororities at Valparaiso University explored the process of affiliating with national organizations. Throughout 1997 and 1998, the organizations affiliated as follows:

Alpha Xi Epsilon became the Indiana Theta chapter of Pi Beta Phi
Alpha Phi Delta became the Gamma Upsilon chapter of Delta Delta Delta
Gamma Phi became the Zeta Iota chapter of Gamma Phi Beta
Delta Phi Kappa (Kappa Tau Zeta) became the Delta Xi chapter of Alpha Sigma Tau (now closed)
Delta Chi Epsilon (Phi Omega) became the Eta Psi chapter of Alpha Delta Pi
Kappa Psi Omega became the Zeta Psi chapter of Kappa Delta
Phi Beta Chi became the Eta Delta chapter of Kappa Kappa Gamma
Chi Sigma Xi became the Alpha Lambda chapter of Chi Omega

aopirose · #29 08-28-2002, 05:04 PM

Yup, it was AST.

KappaKittyCat · #30 08-28-2002, 05:15 PM

Yep, the Valpo Kappas are Happy Kappas! So are the John Caroll Kappas. The JCU Kappas got a HUGE, 3 minute ovation when their President came out with their flag at Convention.

As long as there's strong alumnae support, the transition should go smoothly. Contacting Valpo and JCU would be a great idea so y'all can learn from their mistakes.

And of course another Kappa chapter would be awesome... but you can never have too many Kappas!