Giving Incorrect Recruitment Advice - Page 3

ellebud · #1 04-23-2010, 10:09 PM

I'll make reservations...

ellebud · #2 04-24-2010, 01:18 PM

Totally back on subject: I read the thread about clothing at Ole Miss. It is fascinating how in different parts of the country clothing requirements differ. Here: white after Labor Day? No problem. Velvet after Valentine's Day? Why not? If ii is cold and the blue velvet blazer works....throw it on. Skirt lengths? As long as you've got good legs and the basics are covered...go for it. And its all good.

As for Church clothes? I began looking at the people who go to Church at Good Shepard (Catholic) and Bel Air Pres (where Ronald and Nancy Reagan went). Yes, there are some people who are "dressed". But most: jeans, shorts, t shirts, flipflops.

Not saying that we are "right" but that's how we roll! I will NEVER hazard a guess (except with good taste...like wear a bit of makeup) on what is appropriate in other places...except New York as well as Los Angeles. That I've got covered.

DrPhil · #3 04-25-2010, 06:01 PM

None of that matters. If we are essentially telling them to fuck off. Back away from the keyboard.

NextYearSC · #4 01-28-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

This is why I think it's super important for PNMs to get to KNOW someone in REAL life who is familiar with the system.

GC is a great resource but it should not be your primary source of recruitment info. It's also not the "gospel" concerning recruitment at your school.

I haven't read this entire board, so don't know if this point was brought up, but I'm the first in my family to want to go Greek and know only two adults who I am not close to who were even involved in Greek life. I just wanted to bring up that some people may not have the option to talk to people they know in real life regarding recruitment, although I am trying to work on that now.

DubaiSis · #5 01-28-2013, 05:02 PM

That's fair and why we are glad to help. Just understand that while I don't think anyone here tries to sabotage anyone's outcome, do understand that some people jump in where they don't belong. If you get an answer here to a question, wait to see if there are a variety of answers. And anything that says you don't need excellent grades, recs are unimportant or you can dress however you want should be given at least a double take. There are schools were these answers may be true, but I'd make damn sure your school is one of them before trusting it. Don't latch on to the easy answer among 50 that disagree.

And PM is your friend. If you find someone from your school, feel free to send them private messages. You can avoid some of the fire storm that way.

UGAgirl93 · #6 01-28-2013, 07:36 PM

NextYearSC makes a good point. Another thing is even if you have a family member familiar with the system, they might not be familiar with the way things work at your school. For example, when I decided I wanted to rush, the only greek person in my family went greek at a very small, private school with no football team, 6 sororities and only a small number of girls going through recruitment. Said family member told me I didn't need to get my own recs because at their school the sororities really did get a rec for every girl rushing witout issue. It wasn't until late June that I knew I would need to get my own for the 17 chapters at my SEC school. I think it's good (and sometimes vital) for the PNM to do their own research specific to their school, even if they have someone greek helping them out. If you're going to rush, do your own homework. If you copy someone else's it might not always be right.

That being said the information they find on their own would need to be accurate. It's kind of a big circle if you think about it.

carnation · #7 07-16-2013, 05:57 PM

Bump. If you are a PNM, it's a good idea not to toss out your "recruitment wisdom" like candy. There are PNMs coming to this website who are trying their best to learn what they should be doing and you aren't helping by screwing them up. You aren't Greek.

carnation · #8 09-01-2014, 11:00 AM

Bump again. Are you offering recruitment advice and actually, you know no more about that school or chapter than my Shih Tzu does? Then this thread is directed at you.

AGDCanada11 · #9 09-01-2014, 11:04 AM

It frustrates me when individuals give advice when they are not familiar with that campus. Leave it to those who attended the school, or are otherwise very familiar with the specific campus.

Titchou · #10 09-01-2014, 11:55 AM

It is often difficult to understand a campus that differs from your own. I had a whole lot to learn when I moved to a regional position in my group as I had gone to BIG SEC school with houses. Places like GA State in downtown Atlanta and Tennessee with it's PH building were foreign to me. Then I spent 30 years advising in different capacities (even Greek Adviser) at UAB. Learned a lot. And the first thing I learned was to keep my big mouth shut till I "got" that campus!

irishpipes · #11 09-01-2014, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou

It is often difficult to understand a campus that differs from your own. I had a whole lot to learn when I moved to a regional position in my group as I had gone to BIG SEC school with houses. Places like GA State in downtown Atlanta and Tennessee with it's PH building were foreign to me. Then I spent 30 years advising in different capacities (even Greek Adviser) at UAB. Learned a lot. And the first thing I learned was to keep my big mouth shut till I "got" that campus!

After going to Illinois and Oklahoma State, I went to help with recruitment at Northeastern State for the first time. This is a small public that draws heavily from the Native American communities (it's in the capital of the Cherokee Nation) and very small towns in NE Oklahoma. To say it is uncompetitive would be a huge understatement. I had no idea - this was pre-internet everything - and showed up for pref in a to-die-for black cocktail dress. After all, the adviser had told me black was preferred. Well, I felt like a total idiot. Yes, chapter members wore black, but just skirts or slacks. I was so overdressed it was ridiculous. Some PNMs were even wearing shorts. The same adviser asked why I was so dressed up and I was like, well it's pref. Different schools, different rules.

IndianaSigKap · #12 09-01-2014, 01:23 PM

I would never attempt to give someone specific recruitment advice about Pac 12 or Big 12, as I know NOTHING about the process there. I will stick to my Big 10 and a handful of other random schools. I am not sure why people feel the need to chime in on recruitments where they have no experience or contacts.

maconmagnolia · #13 09-01-2014, 01:32 PM

My biggest pet peeve is when people hand out recruitment advice and they aren't even Greek at all..

carnation · #14 09-01-2014, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by maconmagnolia

My biggest pet peeve is when people hand out recruitment advice and they aren't even Greek at all..

What you said.

als463 · #15 09-01-2014, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by maconmagnolia

My biggest pet peeve is when people hand out recruitment advice and they aren't even Greek at all..

I agree. To be fair, Low Flat D, I didn't get the impression that anyone was being called out individually. I just took it as a general statement. I have an idea about Big 10 and SEC recruitment. I also have a general idea about ACC recruitment but, the most I would want to really comment on would be specific to the Big 10 (as a collegian) and SEC (as an alumna). I also would have a hard time commenting on particular schools like Indiana as I view that to be incredibly competitive compared to some other Big 10 schools. I write recommendations for various schools but, would only feel comfortable speaking to what happens at a particular SEC school.