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09-06-2012, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dgdramadawg
I'm not trying to be a grammar nazi, but I just want to make sure I understand.
Do you mean that all 17 houses are not at total, not even one of them?
Or do you mean that not all 17 houses are at total, but some are?
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Sorry, I meant that some are (I feel like most are, given the pledge class sizes of each house over the last few years) but some are not.
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09-06-2012, 09:00 AM
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Sorry, I meant that some are (I feel like most are, given the pledge class sizes of each house over the last few years) but some are not.
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Wow...that's a huge change in meaning. I ignored your first post since it seemed to say that all the chapters were now below total which would obviously not be right.
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09-06-2012, 11:02 AM
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mini rant: I feel like the practice of setting chapter to "average" size right after formal recruitment is only good if it's not done every year and if there's not a large gap in size. When it's done every single year, like NPC suggests, it hurts the small chapters that never caught up. It increases the competition for the pool of COB PNMs. So the big get bigger and the small eventually close.
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09-06-2012, 11:13 AM
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Maybe I'm really out of touch, but as I understand the current situation at UGA, it's not as though there are 5 strong chapters and 12 that aren't doing well.
I believe that all 17 chapters are relatively strong, and have solid numbers at recruitment.
I also seem to remember reading that UGA was starting to defer some incoming Freshman til second semester of the school year - that's where I could see an increased total being a boon, when combined with a Spring Rush.
Granted, the last time I participated in Rush at UGA, it was still called Rush and dinosaurs took us to parties.
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09-06-2012, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl
mini rant: I feel like the practice of setting chapter to "average" size right after formal recruitment is only good if it's not done every year and if there's not a large gap in size. When it's done every single year, like NPC suggests, it hurts the small chapters that never caught up. It increases the competition for the pool of COB PNMs. So the big get bigger and the small eventually close.
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my understanding is that the gap has shrunk tremendously at UGA.
There's still a gap, but it's not what it was.
My read on the situation, based on inference (and only inference from a few things I've seen) - this is a good, informed move by Panhellenic, with support of NPC delegates and Inter/National Councils of NPC groups represented on campus.
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09-06-2012, 11:31 AM
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Sorry, my rant is not specific to UGA. It's more of a general "resetting of total shouldn't happen when it's killing a chapter" rant.
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09-06-2012, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl
mini rant: I feel like the practice of setting chapter to "average" size right after formal recruitment is only good if it's not done every year and if there's not a large gap in size. When it's done every single year, like NPC suggests, it hurts the small chapters that never caught up. It increases the competition for the pool of COB PNMs. So the big get bigger and the small eventually close.
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Average chapter size is the best alternative to Max or Median chapter size.
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09-06-2012, 12:01 PM
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Average chapter size is the best alternative to Max or Median chapter size.
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If you can get that to pass Panhellenic.
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09-06-2012, 02:04 PM
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Sorry, my rant is not specific to UGA. It's more of a general "resetting of total shouldn't happen when it's killing a chapter" rant.
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I tend to agree with this...I was on a campus with 19 groups, which is obviously towards the high end, but there were typically about 5 under total. Had they raised total so that 9 groups were under, I wonder if there would have been more women we got through COB who wouldn't have come to us, instead having their sights set on one of the groups that was stronger during recruitment.
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09-06-2012, 07:01 PM
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If you can get that to pass Panhellenic.
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If you can get which one to pass, Average?
At our campus we currently change total to median chapter size right after formal. The problem with that is that we always have a few ladies drop in every chapter. Last year every chapter was COBing except 1.
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09-06-2012, 07:41 PM
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Forgive old eyesight...read this entire thread earlier today, still not seeing a new listed number for total at Georgia...
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09-06-2012, 10:33 PM
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Yep, what's the new number?
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09-06-2012, 11:02 PM
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Depending on what report I'm reading, 180 or 200 was the old number.
Doesn't answer the question though, does it
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09-06-2012, 11:25 PM
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Depending on what report I'm reading, 180 or 200 was the old number.
Doesn't answer the question though, does it
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I heard from an active member of another chapter at UGA that total was raised from 180 to 200 last year. Then I was told after recruitment this year that total was 219. And now apparently it's being raised from whichever one of those it is?
I have come to the conclusion that total is apparently as secret at UGA as bid lists.
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09-07-2012, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mevara
Average chapter size is the best alternative to Max or Median chapter size.
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Originally Posted by Mevara
If you can get which one to pass, Average?
At our campus we currently change total to median chapter size right after formal. The problem with that is that we always have a few ladies drop in every chapter. Last year every chapter was COBing except 1.
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Technically median is one type of average, just like mode and mean.
I took five quarters of three different types of statistics and that's pretty much the sum of my stats knowledge.
There in no way should be a change in total that results in most chapters doing COB.
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