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Old 09-11-2011, 03:05 PM
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To protect the pnm's I'm going to call my girl Ava and her Mom Ann so I don't have to keep writing out, my friend's daughter etc. Ann is pretty nervous right now and super worried so you are not alone. I just read the RFM info you shared. Very interesting, I can see how it helps, but I can see how drastic the cuts are as well.
I'm more nervous now as I still am used to my system where the cuts happened much later. I have no idea how these girls wait a week for the next invites, but talk about teaching them patience early on. I will let you know if I hear anything at all, although the girls breaks will probably be staggered. Sending you hugs from here!
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Old 09-11-2011, 03:43 PM
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You rushed more recently than I did...you went to 4-H house in the first round, right? Or do they not do that anymore?
Ohhh that's really interesting! 4-H House has not participated in FR since at least 2006 (my freshmen year on campus.) The only chapters that participate are NPC. When Phi Sigma Sigma was on campus still they were the exception and only participated in informal.

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Honey, you are right. Have no idea what I was thinking!
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I have not heard from my daughter. I texted her last night around 12:30 just to see how her second day went, but then it occurred to me that the NPMs were all probably still working out their lists. Did not hear from her this morning, and they started at 11:00 am and will go until 9 pm. I was hoping to hear from her this morning, but did not. I am not sure the timing between getting their invite lists and starting, so I'm hoping she has a fairly full schedule and just hasn't had time to call. The good thing, I guess, with my daughter is that no news is usually good news.

Of course, there's this little part of me thinking, "Oh god, she didn't get back any invites and is just too hysterical about it to call ..."
Of course I can only speculate as well but I would bet she's just been busy with her parties. First invite is an incredibly long and fast moving day since it is the day with the most parties in a single day.

Hope you get to speak to her soon!
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:12 PM
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Actually, going over the Recruitment Booklet, it looks like there were 19 houses involved in Formal. So that would be the 18 GLOs listed earlier, plus 4-H House. Which makes sense, since 4H House is listed on the map included in the Booklet, along with the 18 houses. Which is weird, because it looks like they have about 50 girls in their house, which is even smaller than what quota should be this year, plus they are a "cooperative," which would maybe not be as attractive to the majority of NPMs.
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:29 PM
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what is the rationale for including 4-H house in formal NPC recruitment?
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:46 PM
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Actually, going over the Recruitment Booklet, it looks like there were 19 houses involved in Formal. So that would be the 18 GLOs listed earlier, plus 4-H House. Which makes sense, since 4H House is listed on the map included in the Booklet, along with the 18 houses. Which is weird, because it looks like they have about 50 girls in their house, which is even smaller than what quota should be this year, plus they are a "cooperative," which would maybe not be as attractive to the majority of NPMs.
Oh that's bizarre! I see where you see that in the booklet (on p. 19 correct?)

I'm guessing that that was actually just copied and pasted from last year when their used to be 19 chapters in formal recruitment (before Phi Mu closed) and no one caught the mistake. If you look at the formal recruitment website: http://www.illinoisphc.com/#_p.Recru...%20Information it shows that there is 18 parties for Open House round. The times also match up to 18 rounds and not 19.

However, if you talk to your daughter and hear different, please let me know! (I'm hoping you got to talk to her--looks like according to the schedule in the link above, she should have just finished an hour break!)
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Old 09-11-2011, 05:06 PM
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There is one unhoused sorority at iowa and they decided to try fr this year. It was a hard sell.

I hope your daughter is having too much fun to call/text I'm sending positive vibes her way!
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Old 09-11-2011, 05:42 PM
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what is the rationale for including 4-H house in formal NPC recruitment?
4-H is a longstanding member of the CPH, will full rights to vote and hold office. I think this is because they have been there so long, and have a house. They didn't "participate" in the full thing, PNM's just visited their house and learned about them during open houses. They actually recruit graduating high school seniors in the spring and summer before they come to campus, and they are all women who participated in 4-H growing up.

As for the rationale? I think it was largely out of respect for the group, so that women joining the panhellenic community understood what and who they were, but it also had the benefit of making parties slightly smaller. Having more than 50 PNM's at a 25-minute party is really problematic; there is barely enough time to get them through the door before you are escorting them out again.
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Old 09-11-2011, 06:21 PM
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As for the rationale? I think it was largely out of respect for the group, so that women joining the panhellenic community understood what and who they were
This is a really nice idea.

It might have been different back when there were more agriculture students (as at any flagship state school) but I'm sure that a lot of women entering the university nowadays have never heard of 4-H, let alone know that it has a sorority.
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Old 09-11-2011, 06:28 PM
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I just talked to Ava. She was very happy to be going back to 13 parties today.
The girls did rank the houses in order last night 1-18 with 14-18 being their alternate or back up houses. (very well put in a different thread and sounds so much better) She did not receive an invite from her #2 or #5 and it does not sound like anyone was getting their first 13 back. I don't have any actual knowledge of any of this I am just sharing what Ava told me. Ava was very surprised #2 was not on there because she left thinking she had a great conversation and connection there. She had already visited with a house she had ranked lower the previous day and now loves them! It just really drives home the importance of keeping your heart open to the process.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:46 PM
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I just talked to Ava. She was very happy to be going back to 13 parties today.
The girls did rank the houses in order last night 1-18 with 14-18 being their alternate or back up houses. (very well put in a different thread and sounds so much better) She did not receive an invite from her #2 or #5 and it does not sound like anyone was getting their first 13 back. I don't have any actual knowledge of any of this I am just sharing what Ava told me. Ava was very surprised #2 was not on there because she left thinking she had a great conversation and connection there. She had already visited with a house she had ranked lower the previous day and now loves them! It just really drives home the importance of keeping your heart open to the process.
13 invites and with only 2 of her top 13 missing from her schedule? Sounds like things are going well for her so far! I'm also happy to hear that she truly sounds like she's keeping an open mind (by having a not-so-favorite move up in the ranks).

I hope that everything continues to go well for your daughter!
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Old 09-12-2011, 12:38 AM
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I talked to my daughter on their break, and she did not sound happy. She was going back to 9 parties today. One of her suite mates had 13, another had 5 (according to my daughter, the girl wasn't that into it, and the houses could tell). The other two suite mates had parties similar to my daughter's. She felt bad for her one suite mate, and she felt bad that the one house she really, really liked during Open House had dropped her.

I asked my daughter which houses she was seeing again, and she started to list them off. I was writing them down, and had to stop her to ask her to repeat. She said, "What are you doing? Are you writing them down? Why are you writing them down? Mom, that is just weird!" This is why I will never be able to have a recruitment thread!

Anyway, she called again after it was all over, and she was happy. She enjoyed some of the parties following the break. Keeping our fingers crossed for next weekend!
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:14 AM
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And telling her you're keeping a bunch of complete strangers up to the minute on her rush experience would NOT help your daughter from thinking you're a freak. HA! But keep at it - this complete stranger wants to hear all about it.
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:31 AM
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clara's mom:

someone-was it 33girl?- gave some sage advice last year to a pnm who was not invited back to her favorite sorority. she said(and i paraphrase),"you have "x" sororities left. You should try to find a new favorite."
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:35 AM
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I hope that everything continues to go well for your daughter!
Whoops, got my PNM's mixed up! DG Illinois, good luck friend's daughter and Clara Mom, good luck to your daughter! Hope the week goes by for them quickly.
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:59 AM
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First of all, thank you so much for the updates! I am super addicted! Considering it's the biggest rush in the nation, we don't get nearly enough UIUC threads.

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clara's mom:

someone-was it 33girl?- gave some sage advice last year to a pnm who was not invited back to her favorite sorority. she said(and i paraphrase),"you have "x" sororities left. You should try to find a new favorite."
My rush was the year of the giant computer f**k-up that meant we got the WRONG invitations and then had them revoked. I had a full schedule for second invitational, but it was not the full schedule I had been expecting. My rho chi told me "Ignore everything that has happened up until this point. These are the five chapters on campus. Is there one you could love by bid day?"

(and of course, there was...actually, there were five I could have loved)
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