Judge dismisses Wyoming KKG lawsuit

[bevinpiphi]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

Did y’all catch this line from the WaPo article: “Further, all 26 organizations that are members of the National Panhellenic Conference have policies, like Kappa, that allow their collegiate chapters to admit transgender women.” ( from an official Kappa statement)

We had a trans member in the late 2000's - but she had been socially transitioned since high school. She however got in on her own merits, and met all academic requirements for the chapter.

[carnation]

Ole boy here had around a 1.7.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by bevinpiphi

We had a trans member in the late 2000's - but she had been socially transitioned since high school. She however got in on her own merits, and met all academic requirements for the chapter.

I'm betting all 26 groups have had transgender members (whether they know it or not). Just as back in the day, groups who weren't admitting Black or Asian or Jewish people had some Black or Asian or Jewish people on their rolls. You can get a lot accomplished if you're wise enough to keep your mouth shut.

[Cheerio]

Be Bold!

[carnation]

Interested in seeing how some of these organizations are planning to keep their big mansions going.

[LaneSig]

Point of Order:

Doesn't the fact that Tracey Nadzieja had previously been a member of Sigma Pi disallow membership in Kappa Kappa Gamma?

Would that fall under "not being a member of another group or similar type"?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

Point of Order:

Doesn't the fact that Tracey Nadzieja had previously been a member of Sigma Pi disallow membership in Kappa Kappa Gamma?

Would that fall under "not being a member of another group or similar type"?

Yes.

Quite frankly, if I was Sigma Pi I'd be kinda pissed at being tossed for a larger and more prestigious organization. It sounds like they were absolutely willing - in fact, welcoming - to let her stay involved after her transition.

[33girl]

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from a province director to national president? I know all our groups have different names for things, but there are usually a LOT of steps in between unless the national organization is VERY small.

Here's my biggest question, and I realize how it's going to sound. Over lo these many years of posting on GC, KKG has never struck me as one of the more liberal or open-minded groups on a national scale. In fact, the polar opposite. When and how did that change? Was there a leadership coup or something? Or is this something that came from the collegiate chapters and trickled up?

[navane]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from a province director to national president?

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from 2020 alumna initiate to province director?

[carnation]

Originally Posted by navane

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from 2020 alumna initiate to province director?

Originally Posted by 33girl

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from a province director to national president?

THESE. BOTH of these.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by navane

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from 2020 alumna initiate to province director?

Depending on the circumstances of the alumna initiate - for example, a longtime chapter advisor who wasn't a sister but who has been around the sorority and its policies long enough to understand what's going on - I can see that being not an issue if the group was strapped for volunteers.

But as I have personal experience with an AI turned province director way too soon and the results thereof, I really need to tap out of this part of this discussion before I start sounding like a Quentin Tarantino movie.

[Pinkmagnolia921]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from a province director to national president? I know all our groups have different names for things, but there are usually a LOT of steps in between unless the national organization is VERY small.

Here's my biggest question, and I realize how it's going to sound. Over lo these many years of posting on GC, KKG has never struck me as one of the more liberal or open-minded groups on a national scale. In fact, the polar opposite. When and how did that change? Was there a leadership coup or something? Or is this something that came from the collegiate chapters and trickled up?

Great Question!

[UVASquirrel]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

Point of Order:

Doesn't the fact that Tracey Nadzieja had previously been a member of Sigma Pi disallow membership in Kappa Kappa Gamma?

Would that fall under "not being a member of another group or similar type"?

I don't know about anyone else, but our requirements for Alumnae Initiation state that they can't be an initiated member of any other NPC, NPHC or Multi-Cultural group. We don't have any rule about men's groups.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by UVASquirrel

I don't know about anyone else, but our requirements for Alumnae Initiation state that they can't be an initiated member of any other NPC, NPHC or Multi-Cultural group. We don't have any rule about men's groups.

I bet no one ever thought it would come to this, though.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by UVASquirrel

I don't know about anyone else, but our requirements for Alumnae Initiation state that they can't be an initiated member of any other NPC, NPHC or Multi-Cultural group. We don't have any rule about men's groups.

Originally Posted by carnation

I bet no one ever thought it would come to this, though.

PLEASE, let this insanity stop! Let the powers that be realize the oaths that were broken, and will continue to be broken in the quest to destroy the very concept of sorority!